French President Emmanuel Macron arrived in China yesterday for a state visit from April 5 to April 7, during which he will also visit Guangzhou in Guangdong province. Macron's visit is aimed at strengthening bilateral ties between France and China.

As part of the ongoing cultural exchange between the two countries, Hu Xiaoyu, a joint doctoral student from Sun Yat-sen University and Université Toulouse-Jean-Jaurès, expressed his hopes to contribute to promoting cultural exchange between China and France. In a recent interview with reporters, Hu highlighted the frequent cultural exchanges and extensive cooperation between the two nations and expressed his desire to apply his academic knowledge to further enhance the cultural exchange between China and France.

Hu Xiaoyu, a PhD student at Sun Yat-sen University's Chinese Department and the Chinese Intangible Cultural Heritage Research Center, has been studying anthropology at Université Toulouse-Jean-Jaurès in France from 2020 to 2022. During his time in France, he traveled to many cities in Europe. Hu Xiaoyu said, "Most French people are interested in China, but they have limited access to information about China."

As French President Emmanuel Macron visits China, humanistic exchanges will be a highlight of his trip, with a group of artists and filmmakers accompanying him to Beijing. Hu Xiaoyu believes that promoting cultural exchange and mutual learning between China and France can greatly benefit from the sharing of intangible cultural heritage.

"The exchange of intangible cultural heritage between China and France is extensive. During the Chinese New Year, many parts of France hold lantern festivals, inviting artisans from Zigong, Sichuan Province, to create various traditional Chinese-themed lanterns. During the Chinese New Year , the Teochew Association in France organizes the Teochew Qinglong Temple Fair (Ying Dalaoye) in the 13th arrondissement of Paris , featuring colourful parades with traditional costumes. In addition, Tai Chi and acupuncture, two intangible cultural heritage projects, are very popular in France."

Meanwhile, many French intangible cultural heritage skills are also deeply influencing people's lives. Hu Xiaoyu said,"The familiar French red wine, baguette bread, Provence soap, Grasse perfume, Louis Vuitton handbags, and other products are all supported by intangible cultural heritage and culture."

Hu Xiaoyu believes that the integration of intangible cultural heritage into people's daily lives can reflect the cultural psychology of the people. By understanding each other's cultural psychology through intangible cultural heritage, and using things that can easily evoke empathy from the other party to attract them, one can better tell their own story and gain the other's understanding.

"I hope that more Chinese intangible cultural heritage can go abroad, and more French intangible cultural heritage can come in, to promote in-depth cultural exchange and mutual learning between China and France," Hu Xiaoyu said.

促进中法文化交流互鉴，非遗可以发挥何种作用？

据外交部消息，法国总统马克龙将于4月5日至7日对中国进行国事访问，期间还将赴广东省广州市参观访问。

近日，中山大学—法国图卢兹第二大学（法文：Université Toulouse-Jean-Jaurès）联合培养的博士生胡小宇在接受记者采访时表示，中法两国人文交往频繁、合作广泛，他希望学以致用，为增进中法文化交流贡献力量。

胡小宇是中山大学中文系中国非物质文化遗产研究中心在读博士生，曾在2020年至2022年赴法国图卢兹第二大学人类学系学习。在法国生活期间，他游历了欧洲许多城市。胡小宇表示：“大多数法国人对中国比较感兴趣，只是他们获取有关中国的信息渠道较少。”

人文交流将成为这次马克龙访华的亮点，一批艺术家和电影制片人将随马克龙共同前往北京。胡小宇认为，促进中法文化交流互鉴，非遗可以发挥巨大作用。

“中法两国在非遗方面的交流十分广泛。每到新年，法国许多地方会举办灯会，邀请四川自贡的手艺人过去扎制各种中国传统主题彩灯；农历春节期间，法国潮州会馆在巴黎十三区组织潮州青龙庙会（营大老爷）彩妆游行。此外，太极拳、针灸等非遗项目在法国的被接受程度也非常高。”

与此同时，不少法国非遗技艺也深刻影响着人们的生活。胡小宇说：“我们所熟悉的法国红酒、法棍面包、普罗旺斯香皂、格拉斯香水、路易·威登手提包等产品背后其实都有相应的非遗技艺和文化作为支撑。”

胡小宇认为，非遗嵌入到人们日常生活中，能体现民众的文化心理。通过非遗了解对方的文化心理，用容易唤起对方同理心的内容来吸引对方，就更能讲好自己的故事，获得对方的理解。

“我希望有更多的中国非遗走出去，更多的法国非遗走进来，促进中法两国文化深入交流、互鉴。”胡小宇说。

文｜羊城晚报全媒体记者 赵鹏
图｜受访者提供
译｜刘佳慧